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CoveyIsle
Joined: 21 Feb 2008 Posts: 3
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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 10:28 am Post subject: Unlock Verizon cell phone DNS |
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Hi,
I want to purchase a used Chocloate by Verizon.
Verizon told me the DNS is locked because it was once reported lost. And
therefore it cannot be activated.
Is this phone really unusable, forever? I can get it for onlry $25.oo.
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CoveyIsle
Joined: 21 Feb 2008 Posts: 3
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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 11:33 am Post subject: Re: Unlock Verizon cell phone DNS |
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Thanks,
Perhaps it is ESN and not DSN as I heard. Can anyone shed some light on wha
to do witha Verizon Venus Cell Phne (1-day old) that was locked from
activiation by Verizon?
I'e like to have my niecie use it or sell it to someone else but I need to
know if it can be activated by Verizon, another provider or a hacker.
Evan Platt wrote:
>>Hi,
>>
>>I want to purchase a used Chocloate by Verizon.
>>
>>Verizon told me the DNS is locked because it was once reported lost. And
>>therefore it cannot be activated.
>Do you mean ESN? If the ESN is locked, you MIGHT be able to activate
>it on Sprint. Not 100% sure though.
>
>>Is this phone really unusable, forever? I can get it for onlry $25.oo.
>
>$25 for a paperweight. Your decision. |
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Todd Allcock
Joined: 25 Jul 2007 Posts: 793
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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 5:39 am Post subject: Re: Unlock Verizon cell phone DNS |
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At 21 Feb 2008 06:33:38 +0000 CoveyIsle wrote:
> Thanks,
>
> Perhaps it is ESN and not DSN as I heard. Can anyone shed some light on
wha
> to do witha Verizon Venus Cell Phne (1-day old) that was locked from
> activiation by Verizon?
>
> I'e like to have my niecie use it or sell it to someone else but I need to
> know if it can be activated by Verizon, another provider or a hacker.
Just maybe you should source cellphones via other methods, rather than
stolen goods and insurance fraud? |
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CoveyIsle
Joined: 21 Feb 2008 Posts: 3
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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 3:52 pm Post subject: Re: Unlock Verizon cell phone DNS |
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Todd Allcock wrote:
>> Thanks,
>>
>[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>> I'e like to have my niecie use it or sell it to someone else but I need to
>> know if it can be activated by Verizon, another provider or a hacker.
>
>Just maybe you should source cellphones via other methods, rather than
>stolen goods and insurance fraud?
That's right. You are extraordinarily perceptive. In fact, this phone was
stolen from the burning body of an 11 year old child. Apparently, it was
necessary to actually amputate the child's fingers to release the death grip
on this item. Great phone though. |
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RBM
Joined: 31 Dec 2007 Posts: 41
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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 12:23 pm Post subject: Re: Unlock Verizon cell phone DNS |
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"CoveyIsle" wrote in message @uwe...
> Todd Allcock wrote:
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>>> I'e like to have my niecie use it or sell it to someone else but I need
>>> to
>>> know if it can be activated by Verizon, another provider or a hacker.
>>
>>Just maybe you should source cellphones via other methods, rather than
>>stolen goods and insurance fraud?
>
>
> That's right. You are extraordinarily perceptive. In fact, this phone was
> stolen from the burning body of an 11 year old child. Apparently, it was
> necessary to actually amputate the child's fingers to release the death
> grip
> on this item. Great phone though.
Just a recommendation. If you plan on buying stolen cell phones, buy GSM not
CDMA
> |
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P.Schuman
Joined: 25 Jul 2007 Posts: 25
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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 11:23 am Post subject: Re: Unlock cell phone ESN - was lost/stolen |
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CoveyIsle wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I want to purchase a used Chocloate by Verizon.
>
> Verizon told me the DNS is locked because it was once reported lost.
> And therefore it cannot be activated.
>
> Is this phone really unusable, forever? I can get it for onlry $25.oo.
it's ESN - electronic serial number -
and when they are reported as lost or stolen - can't tell the difference -
they are added to a strike out database... that phone is dead to the
network/s -
Once, I found a phone on a walking path, and it worked ok... sold it on
eBay,
then it was locked out as - lost/stolen - I refunded the buyer, and
learned.....
I wonder if the strike out database shows a difference between lost or
stolen ?
lost = accidental and could be re-activated when found
stolen = theft for profit & resale |
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News
Joined: 29 Dec 2007 Posts: 26
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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 12:31 pm Post subject: Re: Unlock cell phone ESN - was lost/stolen |
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P.Schuman wrote:
> CoveyIsle wrote:
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>I want to purchase a used Chocloate by Verizon.
>>
>>Verizon told me the DNS is locked because it was once reported lost.
>>And therefore it cannot be activated.
>>
>>Is this phone really unusable, forever? I can get it for onlry $25.oo.
>
>
> it's ESN - electronic serial number -
> and when they are reported as lost or stolen - can't tell the difference -
> they are added to a strike out database... that phone is dead to the
> network/s -
For calls, yes, but this does not appear to bar SMS gateway transactions. |
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Bill Kearney
Joined: 25 Jul 2007 Posts: 18
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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 6:11 pm Post subject: Re: Unlock cell phone ESN - was lost/stolen |
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> Once, I found a phone on a walking path, and it worked ok... sold it on
> eBay, then it was locked out as - lost/stolen - I refunded the buyer, and
> learned.....
Gee, you'll take the time to setup an ebay auction, but not to just drop it
off to a local phone store? How civic minded of you... not.
I've dropped off several phones I've found over the years. One wasn't from
that provider, but they looked whose it was, so I walked over to that store
instead. No reward, no thanks, just a clear conscience. |
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SMS
Joined: 25 Jul 2007 Posts: 355
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Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2008 6:13 pm Post subject: Re: Unlock cell phone ESN - was lost/stolen |
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Bill Kearney wrote:
>> Once, I found a phone on a walking path, and it worked ok... sold it on
>> eBay, then it was locked out as - lost/stolen - I refunded the buyer, and
>> learned.....
>
> Gee, you'll take the time to setup an ebay auction, but not to just drop it
> off to a local phone store? How civic minded of you... not.
>
> I've dropped off several phones I've found over the years. One wasn't from
> that provider, but they looked whose it was, so I walked over to that store
> instead. No reward, no thanks, just a clear conscience.
I found a cell phone in the street once, and it was a real pain to get
it back to the owner. First, he had nothing identifying who owned it,
i.e. no "Home" entry in the phone book. Second, it was a T-Mobile phone,
so when I took it home I couldn't make any calls, and had to go to a
place with T-Mobile coverage. I called a random entry in the contact
list and explained what had happened, and the person contacted the
owner. I forgot to tell them to have the owner call me on my own phone,
not the found phone, so I couldn't receive a call from the owner at
home, but luckily he called me while I was out somewhere else.
It would have never occurred to me to try to sell it on eBay. If I
couldn't find the owner then I would have returned it to one of the
carrier's stores so they could contact the owner some other way. |
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Phillip Devoll
Joined: 03 Jan 2008 Posts: 2
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 4:25 am Post subject: Re: Unlock cell phone ESN - was lost/stolen |
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"SMS" wrote in message $0$36383$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
> Bill Kearney wrote:
>>> Once, I found a phone on a walking path, and it worked ok... sold it on
>>> eBay, then it was locked out as - lost/stolen - I refunded the buyer,
>>> and learned.....
>>
>> Gee, you'll take the time to setup an ebay auction, but not to just drop
>> it off to a local phone store? How civic minded of you... not.
>>
>> I've dropped off several phones I've found over the years. One wasn't
>> from that provider, but they looked whose it was, so I walked over to
>> that store instead. No reward, no thanks, just a clear conscience.
>
> I found a cell phone in the street once, and it was a real pain to get it
> back to the owner. First, he had nothing identifying who owned it, i.e. no
> "Home" entry in the phone book. Second, it was a T-Mobile phone, so when I
> took it home I couldn't make any calls, and had to go to a place with
> T-Mobile coverage. I called a random entry in the contact list and
> explained what had happened, and the person contacted the owner. I forgot
> to tell them to have the owner call me on my own phone, not the found
> phone, so I couldn't receive a call from the owner at home, but luckily he
> called me while I was out somewhere else.
>
> It would have never occurred to me to try to sell it on eBay. If I
> couldn't find the owner then I would have returned it to one of the
> carrier's stores so they could contact the owner some other way.
My brother lost his phone and befroe he even realize it our siser called him
and said some called him from his personal cell and he was able to call the
person and the meet the next day and he got it back.... |
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Peter Pan
Joined: 25 Jul 2007 Posts: 93
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 12:08 am Post subject: Re: Unlock Verizon cell phone DNS |
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CoveyIsle wrote:
> Todd Allcock wrote:
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>>> I'e like to have my niecie use it or sell it to someone else but I
>>> need to know if it can be activated by Verizon, another provider or
>>> a hacker.
>>
>> Just maybe you should source cellphones via other methods, rather
>> than stolen goods and insurance fraud?
>
>
> That's right. You are extraordinarily perceptive. In fact, this phone
> was stolen from the burning body of an 11 year old child. Apparently,
> it was necessary to actually amputate the child's fingers to release
> the death grip on this item. Great phone though.
Then it should have already been "activated"... |
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Robert Coe
Joined: 25 Jul 2007 Posts: 21
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 10:32 pm Post subject: Re: Unlock Verizon cell phone DNS |
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On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 10:52:41 GMT, "CoveyIsle" wrote:
: Todd Allcock wrote:
: >> Thanks,
: >>
: >[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
: >> I'e like to have my niecie use it or sell it to someone else but I need to
: >> know if it can be activated by Verizon, another provider or a hacker.
: >
: >Just maybe you should source cellphones via other methods, rather than
: >stolen goods and insurance fraud?
:
: That's right. You are extraordinarily perceptive. In fact, this phone was
: stolen from the burning body of an 11 year old child. Apparently, it was
: necessary to actually amputate the child's fingers to release the death grip
: on this item. Great phone though.
Nobody is fooled by your evasive sarcasm. Without putting words in Todd's
mouth, I surmise that he had simply noticed that you were ignoring the most
obvious way to try to get the phone reactivated: ask Verizon to tell the owner
that the phone has been found and that you might be willing to make an offer
for it.
Bob |
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Robert Coe
Joined: 25 Jul 2007 Posts: 21
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Posted: Fri Feb 22, 2008 11:21 pm Post subject: Re: Unlock cell phone ESN - was lost/stolen |
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On Thu, 21 Feb 2008 23:25:07 GMT, "Phillip Devoll" wrote:
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: "SMS" wrote in message
: $0$36383$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
: > Bill Kearney wrote:
: >>> Once, I found a phone on a walking path, and it worked ok... sold it on
: >>> eBay, then it was locked out as - lost/stolen - I refunded the buyer,
: >>> and learned.....
: >>
: >> Gee, you'll take the time to setup an ebay auction, but not to just drop
: >> it off to a local phone store? How civic minded of you... not.
: >>
: >> I've dropped off several phones I've found over the years. One wasn't
: >> from that provider, but they looked whose it was, so I walked over to
: >> that store instead. No reward, no thanks, just a clear conscience.
: >
: > I found a cell phone in the street once, and it was a real pain to get it
: > back to the owner. First, he had nothing identifying who owned it, i.e. no
: > "Home" entry in the phone book. Second, it was a T-Mobile phone, so when I
: > took it home I couldn't make any calls, and had to go to a place with
: > T-Mobile coverage. I called a random entry in the contact list and
: > explained what had happened, and the person contacted the owner. I forgot
: > to tell them to have the owner call me on my own phone, not the found
: > phone, so I couldn't receive a call from the owner at home, but luckily he
: > called me while I was out somewhere else.
: >
: > It would have never occurred to me to try to sell it on eBay. If I
: > couldn't find the owner then I would have returned it to one of the
: > carrier's stores so they could contact the owner some other way.
:
: My brother lost his phone and before he even realize it our sister called him
: and said some called him from his personal cell and he was able to call the
: person and the meet the next day and he got it back....
A couple of years ago I was at my daughter's house in Philadelphia, when a
call came in from her cell phone to mine. "Why is she calling me from
downstairs?" thought I. But the caller was a stranger, who had found my
daughter's handbag in a park across the street from an ice cream stand where
we had taken her kids the night before. (It had fallen off of her son's
stroller in the dark, and she hadn't noticed that it was missing.) The finder
turned out to be an employee of the ice cream stand, whose owner was a friend
of my daughter and her husband. The finder didn't know my daughter or about
the connection to his employer. But altogether unwittingly, he had given his
employer an unsolicited demonstration of his honesty.
Additional odd factoid: I had taken some flash pictures of my daughter's kids
in the park. When I was editing them a couple of days later, I discovered that
one of them showed the handbag lying on the ground.
Bob |
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CoveyIsle via CellPhoneKB
Joined: 23 Feb 2008 Posts: 2
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Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 8:19 am Post subject: Re: Unlock Verizon cell phone DNS |
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why must those such as yourself be so, so shallow; making much ado about
nothing?
Robert Coe wrote:
>: >> Thanks,
>: >>
>[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>: necessary to actually amputate the child's fingers to release the death grip
>: on this item. Great phone though.
>
>Nobody is fooled by your evasive sarcasm. Without putting words in Todd's
>mouth, I surmise that he had simply noticed that you were ignoring the most
>obvious way to try to get the phone reactivated: ask Verizon to tell the owner
>that the phone has been found and that you might be willing to make an offer
>for it.
>
>Bob
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CoveyIsle via CellPhoneKB
Joined: 23 Feb 2008 Posts: 2
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Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 8:20 am Post subject: Re: Unlock Verizon cell phone DNS |
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why must those such as yourself be so, so shallow; making much ado about
nothing?
Robert Coe wrote:
>: >> Thanks,
>: >>
>[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>: necessary to actually amputate the child's fingers to release the death grip
>: on this item. Great phone though.
>
>Nobody is fooled by your evasive sarcasm. Without putting words in Todd's
>mouth, I surmise that he had simply noticed that you were ignoring the most
>obvious way to try to get the phone reactivated: ask Verizon to tell the owner
>that the phone has been found and that you might be willing to make an offer
>for it.
>
>Bob
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http://www.cellphonekb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/verizon/200802/1
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